Comments for The American Family Association: In the Business of Deception and Hate at http://atlanticfreepress.com , comment 1 to 3 out of 3 comments http://atlanticfreepress.com Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:07:52 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://atlanticfreepress.com/news/1/5402-the-american-family-association-in-the-business-of-deception-and-hate-.html#comment-6923 It is good to seen the unvarnished truth about the religious right. I didn't see it mentioned , so I thought I'd add this item about the misuse of research data done by respected academic researchers , for one's ulterior purposes. Pat Robertson arguably leads the pack with such tactics. His grip on reality is tenuous , of course , but he has no conscience when it comes to truth and integrity. researchers across North America got so fed up with his lack of ethics in misusing their research , they started a website called respectmyresearch.org . Thanks . - Hugh (Bart) Vincelette Wed, 05 Nov 2008 08:26:22 +0100 http://atlanticfreepress.com/news/1/5402-the-american-family-association-in-the-business-of-deception-and-hate-.html#comment-6620 Fred, that's not the point of this article and you know this. We have organizations in the United States who, while claiming to come from the body of Christ, are stooping to lies and distortions to get their points across. Before you start trying to cite Biblical verses against homoseuxality, maybe you need to make Wildmon and the rest of that crew abreast of the verses against lying. Until you do, your words will fall on deaf ears because you have NO credibility. - a. mcewen Sun, 19 Oct 2008 17:37:28 +0100 http://atlanticfreepress.com/news/1/5402-the-american-family-association-in-the-business-of-deception-and-hate-.html#comment-6572 Certainly if God didn't want men to have sex with other men, He would have said “Man shall not lie with man PERIOD (Leviticus 18:22, 21:13). God wanted Moses to eradicate rampant idolatry in the Jewish nation. That whole “ . . . as with a woman” thing condemns straight men pretending to make it with a woman, such as during idol worship. Paul explains it further when putting down the straight Romans (1:26-28 ) for “leaving their natural relations” (i.e.... as with a woman) and having idolatrous sex with men. Gay men are attracted to other men by definition and by God. They can only imagine what sex “ . . . as with a woman” would be like. “Homosexual” was coined about 1865, so any Bible translation since then that uses a form of that word is a lie that needs to be emended. ( The King James version is honest.) It premiered in a 1946 English Bible and continues to condemn loving Gays. As Lord, Jesus bases and defines ALL sin as lack of love (Matthew 22:36-40). Such obvious sins as theft, murder and adultery are unloving because each has a victim, someone not receiving love. Please tell me, who is the unloved victim in a homosexual relationship? Neither is a victim, neither is unloved. Where is the hurt? Who could bring suit against the “sinner”? What Gospel writer or Bible prophet claimed homosexuality is sinful? (Jesus didn't.) These are not rhetorical questions; they are unanswered by those who refuse God's grace and live by working the law. It is noteworthy that Gay people employ themselves in loving professions like medicine, education and the ministry. However, some Christians evidently work in the Biblical judicial system. We Christians want to avoid sin that offends God. We do not unilaterally harm God but we do wreck our love relationship with Him by sinning. Created in His loving image, we fail to live up to expectations. Without Jesus and His deal to make it all right, we would be planning our new residence in Hell. But we have taken Jesus as Savior and Lord and He keeps us in His Father's loving will. What is the most love one can show another sinner? Offer them an eternity with God through the redemptive cross of Jesus. Instead of judging them, shouldn’t Christians be telling those “sinful” homosexuals that Jesus died for their sins? The stumbling block is that Gays do not want to affiliate with unloving and judgmental Christians. Know Jesus, know love. No Jesus, no love. - Fred Conwell Fri, 17 Oct 2008 15:15:03 +0100