Comments for The Dubious Decider at http://www.atlanticfreepress.com , comment 1 to 9 out of 9 comments http://www.atlanticfreepress.com Thu, 08 Jan 2009 02:11:37 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.atlanticfreepress.com/news/1/3168-the-dubious-decider.html#comment-4081 Weird. I didn't notice that. The Google cache version of this article contains the misspelling...what does that mean? Is it some kind of signal? Is it part of a vast Zionist conspiracy to destroy and control western culture by confusing our spelling? I'm calling you out, Dr. Balls, if that is your real name. Dr. Ballbergersteinowitz, I presume? Poisoning our culture, sodomizing and eating our children, analyzing everything do death; you ought to be ashamed of yourself. - Josh Strike Sat, 05 Jan 2008 10:55:05 +0100 http://www.atlanticfreepress.com/news/1/3168-the-dubious-decider.html#comment-4078 Funny how John Steinbeck can't 'spell' either... [url=http://www.amazon.com/Dubiuous-Battle-John-Steinbeck/dp/B000K03D9U]In Dubiuous Battle by John Steinbeck [/url] And the BBC [url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sport/1999_cricket_world_cup/general_news/371674.stm]Cronje: Not happy as the Aussies celebrate a dubiuous dismissal[/url] - Bill Sat, 05 Jan 2008 07:49:44 +0100 http://www.atlanticfreepress.com/news/1/3168-the-dubious-decider.html#comment-4076 ...uh...English please? - Josh Strike Sat, 05 Jan 2008 05:07:48 +0100 http://www.atlanticfreepress.com/news/1/3168-the-dubious-decider.html#comment-4075 If Josh Strike had read Dr. Balles' article on "Non-stop ethnic cleansing" he wouldnt make the absurd comments that inadvertently accuse top Israeli leaders of being insane, absurd, and delivering rubbish and lies. - Rashid Sat, 05 Jan 2008 04:43:21 +0100 http://www.atlanticfreepress.com/news/1/3168-the-dubious-decider.html#comment-4066 Yeah, Jim. Exactly. I picked up my rhetoric from "the Zionist handbook." It's on my shelf between the "Protocols" and the skull of a Christian child. Hang on a minute, let me get the rest of my cabal on the phone so we can tell you how we've plotted to take over the world. I said nothing against Arabs nor against the very necessary creation of a functioning, independent Palestinian state. Personally, I want to see peace at any cost -- short of the destruction of Israel. I do, however, have something against people who'll take any excuse to call for Israel's destruction, or portray it as something it's not, namely racist, apartheid, or what have you, while loosely and lazily dragging the rest of the Jewish people into the argument. It's a handy little way for you to bait Jews while looking innocent, but I know and you know and everyone knows where you're really coming from. "Any blind person could see that every acre occupied by Jews is one less acre that will host Arabs. " And the same is true in reverse. Insh'Allah we can learn to share it. People like you who take advantage of the political problems to further your racist ideology do no good whatsoever. I'm thrilled and honored to have you quote me so extensively, you must have enjoyed my writing; nonetheless, I'm not seeking to demonize the Palestinian cause, nor Arabs at large; my beef is with people like you, and the author of the article, who would use the present situation to advance your twisted beliefs about Jews. I have the same rage toward people who use "terrorism" as a starting point to peddle hatred toward Muslims. They call those people "Islamophobic." You're just doing what they do, under the word "Zionism," and aiming it at Jews, and there's a word for peddling that kind of hatred, too. Can you guess what the word is? - Josh Strike Fri, 04 Jan 2008 02:14:45 +0100 http://www.atlanticfreepress.com/news/1/3168-the-dubious-decider.html#comment-4064 Josh, you are indeed silly. I came here asserting spiritual principles (i.e.: the worm always turns = what goes around comes around = do unto others as you would have them do unto you). To that reasonable and benign sentiment, you respond that everyone who thinks like me is a Jew-hating Nazi. Did you get your rhetorical training from the Zionist handbook on how to win friends and influence people? But you're right about one thing: "The whole world needs to see people like you for what you really are. You are not progressive or liberal. You go out of your way to demonize one side in an argument that isn't your own, in order to bolster another side that's committed many if not more crimes; and the reason you choose sides is because you believe a whole raft of falsehoods and hate-filled canards about Arabs, which creep into your tone and poison your objectivity." Rave on, Josh. The whole world is watching. - Jimmy Montague Fri, 04 Jan 2008 01:33:04 +0100 http://www.atlanticfreepress.com/news/1/3168-the-dubious-decider.html#comment-4059 Firstly, when you say things like "Zionists are digging their own graves in Palestine," you sound like a nazi gleefully rubbing your hands. There's a country called Israel. It was created by the United Nations. It exists primarily so that Europeans of your own particular leaning are no longer able to convert your theoretical Jew-hatred into actual murder. Having said that, Israel continues to tear down and evacuate settlements, many erected by extremist Jews against the wishes of the state. Yes, there are extremists on the Israeli side, and they make matters worse, just as extremist Muslims -- of whom there are a far, far greater number -- also aggravate the situation. But with what joy you seem to paint all "Zionists" as the only ones preventing the peace! What you mean is that Jews, by their very presence in Israel, prevent peace. That's what you mean, isn't it? But you don't want them in your country either, do you? Where WOULD you like to see the Jews, then? In a boxcar? In an oven? Do you care? And how you gloat over their imminent demise, don't you? The whole world needs to see people like you for what you really are. You are not progressive or liberal. You go out of your way to demonize one side in an argument that isn't your own, in order to bolster another side that's committed many if not more crimes; and the reason you choose sides is because you believe a whole raft of falsehoods and hate-filled canards about Jews, which creep into your tone and poison your objectivity. While anti-Zionism isn't necessarily anti-Semitism, in your case it clearly IS so; it's a form of racism masquerading as "anti-racism". - Josh Strike Thu, 03 Jan 2008 21:14:42 +0100 http://www.atlanticfreepress.com/news/1/3168-the-dubious-decider.html#comment-4050 Josh, you ask: "It's been well within Israel's power to expel the Palestinians from Gaza and the West Bank for many years. Why haven't they done it?" The answer is: "They are doing it." The Zionists don't use their military power to drive Palestinians out of Palestine all at once because global political and diplomatic repercussions provoked by such an act would be unpalatable. What they do instead is keep building settlements, annexing more and more Palestinian land. Any blind person could see that every acre occupied by Jews is one less acre that will host Arabs. Palestinians are thus pushed off the land and into Gaza, where hellish overcrowding, unemployment and privation await them. Watching it all happen, two mysteries are apparent to me: One is "Why does the rest of the world allow the process to continue?" The other is: "Are the Israelis so blinded by fear and hatred and prejudice that they think the worm will never turn?" The worm ALWAYS turns. Zionists are digging their own graves in Palestine, for when the worm finally does turn, all the nuclear weapons in the Israeli arsenal won't save Israelis from reaping what they have sown. - Jimmy Montague Thu, 03 Jan 2008 14:03:31 +0100 http://www.atlanticfreepress.com/news/1/3168-the-dubious-decider.html#comment-4047 "Israel's ultimate goal is to empty Gaza and the West Bank of all Palestinians, through an ethnic cleansing, forcing them to join the millions of Palestinian refugees." And your proof for this insane, absurd statement is...? This is rubbish and lies. Why did Israel pull out of Gaza? Why the Anapolis summit? It's been well within Israel's power to expel the Palestinians from Gaza and the West Bank for many years. Why haven't they done it? Why do they try to avoid inflicting civilian casualties while going after the Hamas cowards who hide in civilian populations in Gaza? Why don't they retaliate with 8 missiles a day, to the average of 8 missiles a day the Palestinians have sent into Israeli towns, into civilian populations, every day throughout the last year? "Ethnic cleansing" is hardly a term one could apply to Israeli policies toward Palestinians. If anything, the Israelis have been far too lenient and forgiving of the atrocities committed against their civilians for years and years. Whose boot are you licking by spreading these insane lies? You're a lousy white supremacist parading as a liberal, looking for any excuse to take a cheap shot at a Jew. What's more, you're smart enough and cynical enough to know it. You've got a lot more in common with J.Goebbels than with Martin Luther King. - Josh Strike Thu, 03 Jan 2008 10:18:57 +0100