Comments for 0 at http://atlanticfreepress.com , comment 1 to 11 out of 11 comments http://atlanticfreepress.com Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:41:26 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://atlanticfreepress.com/news/1/2672-pornographic-positions.html#comment-10066 "The fact is our sexual instincts do stem from dominant and submissive roles and some people find pleasure in experimenting with those roles." Child pornography where the amount of acting on the childs face is minimal, and she is really vulnerable and doing what she is told with innocence, is the biggest turn on from a dominant stand point. I believe it would be really hard not to switch to child pornography after watching the adult one. Is there anything wrong with that too, because having sex with fresh young girls is also a natural instinct. Till recently 500 years back, girls as young as ten were married off and having sex. It is indeed a natural instinct to watch it. - rachel Tue, 21 Sep 2010 21:19:00 +0100 http://atlanticfreepress.com/news/1/2672-pornographic-positions.html#comment-5079 Come on... "The men who consume pornography enjoy watching sexual activity in which women are less than fully human." What a crock. First off: it's anthropocentric. Some of my most beloved friends are "less than fully human." They aren't human at all. I don't love them any less. They are still beautiful creatures with beautiful, if murderous, minds and magnificant physical capabilities. The only reason they don't rule the earth is us. (I'm talking about cats) Secondly, there are too many assumptions in here to even begin to list them all. Let me tackle just a few: have you ever considered that it just took the marketing organizations this long to figure out what guys want? It could be just as simple as "women generally won't do it, guys like it, it took us a while to figure that out." Another thing you should probably consider is the fact that people don't generally watch a whole scene; they move to the part of the scene they want to watch and go from there. If you put something into a scene that someone doesn't like, all they have to do is skip over it. If you put something in the scene they do like, then maybe you've made another potential sale. Generally: try using your left brain when you write articles like this. - So Sleepy Sat, 10 May 2008 09:00:49 +0100 http://atlanticfreepress.com/news/1/2672-pornographic-positions.html#comment-3800 I think there is a problem at the moment with the pornographic industry in that ALL porn seems to be aimed at men. All the movies and short clips I have searched through on sites like boysfood.com, i find to be pretty degrading to women. As a woman myself, I would say that I'm most defenitly not a prud, and enjoy quite alot of what I see on screen in my own life, however there is a big gap in the market for porn that women would enjoy too without having the following constants in porn: -girl being called a bitch/slut/whore continuesly just because she likes sex. Does the guy who's pounding her get called this too?...No?... - the camera always being focused on the girl, never the guy -men who resemble pit ball terriors; how come all the women look like models...where are the male models?? -something where the woman actually ENJOYS what is happening rather than the scripted "mm yeah mmm yeah" which she obviously doesn't mean while some guy rams her up the ass and etc.... I just think that there should be something for both sexes to enjoy, and I know alot of people will argue that alot of women like this sort of porn anyway - and yes we do, but what else is there on offer if we don't?... - MoonBeam Thu, 29 Nov 2007 02:58:32 +0100 http://atlanticfreepress.com/news/1/2672-pornographic-positions.html#comment-3673 Good god. Could this article be any more 1985? So trite. Anyone who writes this drivel has obviously never "fucked" on either side of the dom/sub spectrum and obviously is either offended by the fact that some people do/have/enjoy fuck-ing and being fucked. Sex and violence are arousing for some, period for both men and women who are attracted to either role. Is a Dominatrix dehumanizing men by dominating him? Ever seen a strap-on porn where woman pentrates a man? The fact is our sexual instincts do stem from dominant and submissive roles and some people find pleasure in experimenting with those roles. This is the same tired puritanical shit that was poured into women's heads 10 years ago that tells them they shouldn't dress/feel/act sexy because it might "degrade" them. Sexuallizing a women (or a man) doesn't degrade them. And some men/women find it exciting to be submissive or degraded. There doesn't mean there's anything wrong with that, it means you are free to express your desires. As long as it's between consenting adults, why is htere such a problem? Omg! Pr0n 1s b4d. Dorks. - Joe Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:57:59 +0100 http://atlanticfreepress.com/news/1/2672-pornographic-positions.html#comment-3663 I am of opinion that even a mercyfull God will turn away his face for people like these having these sick discussions here !!! Can`t you even make a small attempt in looking for something better in life than these totally utterly sick ideas!! You are worse than anything totally bad a can imagine - even the animals of the earth are superior to you bunch of scum!! Even the lowest crawling insect on earth has more brains - shame on you!!! - Nardus Combrink Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:21:48 +0100 http://atlanticfreepress.com/news/1/2672-pornographic-positions.html#comment-3647 too many talk on bull shit is all about fun, fun and nothing less forget about morality if there is understanding between two people to indulge in it is cool so fuck all those coment - kodjo Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:02:09 +0100 http://atlanticfreepress.com/news/1/2672-pornographic-positions.html#comment-3585 This article exhibits most of the typical flaws in anti-pornography rhetoric. In fact, there's nothing original in it at all. I certainly don't accept every act that appears in American porn, but I object to this author's arguments and evidence. For one, the ATM section of this article takes the words of "Anal Advisor" out of context. True, Tristan Taormino is ano-normative--she often writes as though it is a duty to try receiving anal sex for both men and women. That said, she does not 'concede' that ATM is unsafe in the article referenced by the author--she flat out says so. More importantly, this article is an advice-column. She is responding to someone who, going by the byline "Curious But Scared," states that his girlfriend "saw some ass to mouth scene (ATM) in a porn movie and went crazy for it. Now she wants to do it. I am afraid that it might be unsafe for one or both of us. We’ve only been dating a short time and I have the feeling that the reason why she likes anal sex so much is that she actually likes shit" (http://www.puckerup.com/?tpid=5&section_copy_id=&section_id=354&section_copy_id=2183&section_id=347&section_type=template). So, far from being a case of male misogyny--an expression of the writer's desire to harm and degrade a woman--the letter expresses a man's desire to protect his partner from the danger inherent in her own desires. Now, of course there are cases of men who want to sexually-degrade women. (It is interesting that the author could not find an example of this.) But does that directly connect to the way men consume porn? Do all men consume it in the same way? Do men want to do what they see on the screen? I like watching women enjoy anal sex, or even DPs, on screen because the extra preparation and communication it requires (even in porn) makes it clear that the woman is sexually-present rather than indifferently participating in vaginal sex; but in real life anal sex is messy and has been better for my partner than me. And I wouldn't want to do a DP at all, since I do not want to do a threesome, but that does not mean that I can't enjoy watching them on screen. In other words: porn is not just a male fantasy of what women want; it's also a male fantasy of what men can do. I don't have two penises, so when my girlfriend said that she wanted to try a DP, I felt helpless. Moreover, just because I like to watch it does not mean that I want to do it. And just because I like to watch it in porn does not mean that I think of all women that way all the time. What an absurd thing to say! That brings up another point--the old "in porn women exist to be fucked" saw. God, what a tired, old argument! (Out of curiosity, does anyone buy this anymore? Even the authors of such arguments must only do it out of habit, right?) Of course people in pornography films 'exist' to fuck and to be fucked! That is why they call it porn! In the State of the Union Address, the President 'exists' to give a speech! Does that de-humanize him? Does that lead people to believe that he has no other existence or mental state? I remember learning that my teacher existed outside of the classroom when I saw her grocery shopping. I was five years old. And to pretend that all women in all porn are the passive 'victims' of fucking is to ignore the content of just about every porn film ever made. And not all men will watch the same porn movie in the same way. When a male actor starts spouting hateful speech, I turn off the volume. I.e.: just because something sells, does not mean that every consumer of it enjoys every single aspect of it in the same way, or at all. If my girlfriend wanted to be called a bitch during sex, it would be hard for me--since I don't sexualize violence. But I would do it for her. Would I be treating her as "less than human" if I indulged her? Just because a male actor degrades a woman on camera, does that mean he degrades women in that way all the time? Who is assuming that actors have no off-camera personalities now? The weakest argument though, is the "anal sex requires preparation" one. Marathons are hard on people's bodies--a lot harder than DPs, anyway--and require a lot more preparation. Belladonna, the actress quoted by the author, enjoys anal penetration tremendously; for her to acknowledge the effort that goes into it does no more to discount her pleasure than a marathoner's acknowledgment that he or she was only able to win a race through training and diet. I have debated porn quite a bit with friends, in conferences, on internet forums. At least once I would like to debate with someone who brings intellectual originality and honesty to the discussion. There are plenty of real issues to consider: the ethics of recruitment and contracting in the porn industry, the protections that should keep representations of sexual violence—even ethical ones—away from children without hampering their ability to learn about sex. Why waste more time on old crap like this? - cbc Mon, 05 Nov 2007 01:11:04 +0100 http://atlanticfreepress.com/news/1/2672-pornographic-positions.html#comment-3571 Focusing on these kinds of porn is like generalizing from horror or slasher mainstream films that all movies are violent and degrading. There is plenty of porn out there that shows men and women having loving caring gentle sex without the degrading parts that jensen is talking about. I would agree that there is a lot of bad porn out there that I would not want to watch but by the same token I would not want to watch 90 per cent of mainstream movies either because they are too violent or upsetting. Some men may be turned on by violent porn just as some people like watching violent mainstream movies, but I believe many more like more gentle loving romantic films. For a more balanced view read "Watching Sex" by David Loftus - he interviewed many men to find out what they really like in porn. - ralph Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:34:49 +0100 http://atlanticfreepress.com/news/1/2672-pornographic-positions.html#comment-3568 I think that many Hollywood movies are no different. In horror films, evil men stalk women who behave like they are 6 years old with no sense of judgment, and can only scream at the right time. In romantic films, the woman submits to the decent, persistent man. And in many films, women are often included as eye candy. I think we also have to be careful not to over-generalize. ALL films are contrived, choosing a subject and plot that will SELL. They are not necessarily meant to be representative of real life. In reality, most men and women do not have group sex. And conversely, there are some that do. [url=http://www.world-sex-news.com/]Editor, World Sex News[/url] - The Editor, World Sex News Sun, 04 Nov 2007 11:20:59 +0100 http://atlanticfreepress.com/news/1/2672-pornographic-positions.html#comment-3262 the message is that men and women are not equal in this sphere, and that to treat them equal in this sphere is to treat them wrongly. stereotypically, men want sex more than women; but if this stereotype holds, which tendency (more sex vs. less sex) is "right" and which should be catered to? and how does this argument for protective inequality jibe with the remainder of feminist thought, which is that men and women are equal and should be treated equally? if women are to pick and choose the spheres in which they would like to be treated equally (jobs, pay, roles) and unequally (military, dates, porn), is this equitable? Or is equality not actually the goal? - nergal Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:19:28 +0100 http://atlanticfreepress.com/news/1/2672-pornographic-positions.html#comment-3255 My new book, Money Shot: The Wild Nights and Lonely Days in the Black Porn Industry, just came out this month and talks about a LOT of the same issues. Gonzo is the main style in black porn and I spent two years profiling the people who produce and act in the movies. Check it out at [url=http://www.amazon.com/Money-Shot-Nights-Lonely-Industry/dp/1560259132/ref=sr_1_3/002-5123775-8628802?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1175391801&sr=1-3]Amazon.com.[/url] - Lawrence Ross Tue, 23 Oct 2007 07:55:26 +0100