Comments for Muslims Must Not Pay Price for Europe’s Identity Crisis at http://atlanticfreepress.com , comment 1 to 4 out of 4 comments http://atlanticfreepress.com Thu, 09 Feb 2012 22:00:12 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://atlanticfreepress.com/news/1/12563-muslims-must-not-pay-price-for-europes-identity-crisis-.html#comment-9451 Swiss antagonist of minarets embraces Islam - interesting price! http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/print/International/30-Jan-2010/Swiss-antagonist-of-minarets-embraces-Islam Swiss antagonist of minarets embraces Islam January 30, 2010 RENOWNED Swiss politician Daniel Streich, who rose to fame for his campaign against minarets of mosques, has embraced Islam. A member of the Swiss People’s Party (SVP) and a well-known politician, Daniel Streich was the first man who had launched a drive for imposition of ban on mosques minarets, and to lock the mosques in Switzerland. The proclamation of Streich’s conversion to Islam has created furore in Swiss politics, besides causing a tremor for those who supported ban on construction of mosques minarets. Streich propagated his anti-Islamic movement far and wide in the country, sowed seeds of indignation and scorn for Islam among the people, and paved way for public opinion against pulpits and minarets of mosques. But now Streich has become a soldier of Islam. His anti-Islam thoughts finally brought him so close to this religion that he embraced Islam. He is ashamed of his doings now and desires to construct the most beautiful mosque of Europe in Switzerland. The most interesting thing in this regard is that at present there are four mosques in Switzerland and Streich wants to lay the foundation for the fifth one. He wishes to seek absolution of his sin of proliferating venom against Islam. He is thinking of a movement contrary to his previous one to promote religious tolerance and peaceful cooperative living, in spite of the fact that ban on mosques minarets has gained a legal status. This is the greatest quality of Islam that it comes up with even greater vigour, when it is faced with confrontation. Abdul Majeed Aldai, the president of OPI, an NGO, working for the welfare of Muslims, says that Europeans have a great desire to know about Islam. Some of them want to know about the relationship between Islam and terrorism; same was the case with Streich. During his confrontation, Streich studied the Holy Quran and started understanding Islam. He wished to be hard to Islam, but the outcome was otherwise. Aldai further says. Recently the question of ban on minarets was put to voting in Switzerland, wherein the Swiss nationals gave the issue a legal status. As per voting results 42.5 per cent people voted in favour of the minarets and 57.5 per cent supported the ban, while the Muslim population in Switzerland is only 6 per cent. The most wondrous thing in this regard, therefore, is the support of 42.5 per cent of population for only six per cent Muslims. The analysts claim that ban on minarets and Islamic rituals has attracted the people towards Islam. Streich was an important member of the Swiss People’s Party (SVP). His importance could be estimated from his influence on party’s policy making, in which he always had a prominent role. His movement against minarets was aimed at gaining political attention and interest. He won the slot of military instructor in the Swiss Army due to his popularity. Born in a Christian family, Streich had a comprehensive study of Islam merely to malign and confront, but Islamic teachings had a deep impact on him. Eventually he de-linked himself from political activities and he embraced Islam. Streich has termed the SVO activities against the Muslims as satanic. He says that he used to read the Bible and often went to chapel, but now he recites the Holy Quran and offers his prayers five times a day. He further says that he cancelled his party membership and made public his conversion. Streich says that he has found the truth of life in Islam, which he could not find in Christianity. On the other hand the Swiss military authorities have feared that Streich, who was once a military instructor, might reveal army secrets to the Muslims. An SVP National Council member says that Streich as military instructor could be dangerous. However, a spokesman of Swiss Army while rejecting this impression said that the performance of our military was more important than that who instructed it. However, from within their own ranks, a man is now working for the promotion of Islam and its teachings. The law of a country can ban minarets but not minds and hearts. - Newsdesk http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online//International/30-Jan-2010/Swiss-antagonist-of-minarets-embraces-Islam - Project Humanbeingsfirst.org Sat, 06 Feb 2010 08:17:17 +0100 http://atlanticfreepress.com/news/1/12563-muslims-must-not-pay-price-for-europes-identity-crisis-.html#comment-9447 :o:o:o:o:o:o What??? Frankly, speaking as an Iraqi citizen, I didn't give a damn about Christians, Hindus, etc., since practicing your religion is your right - always has been in Iraq - Christians, Jews, and Muslims lived together for thousands of years just fine until the West started interfering in the region. What has polarized Iraqis against Christians is American state-sanctioned terrorism, plain and simple. What other religion currently give the death penalty to children? Since 1990, nine countries have executed offenders who were juveniles at the time of their crimes: The People's Republic of China (PRC), Democratic Republic of the Congo, Iran, Nigeria, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, the United States and Yemen. Nice company. Or locks up more people in privatized gulags (jail) than anywhere else in the world? China has 18% of the US incarceration rate. The United States has less than 5% of the world's population and 23.4% of the world's prison population. "WE'RE NUMBER ONE! WE'RE NUMBER ONE!" You sure are! Fundamentalist Christianity and orthodox Judaism in the current time, are arguably worse, i.e., more violent, than Islam in Medieval times, and they have access to very modern weapons. [i] One simple example: "For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it must be put to death.”[/i] - Wow, let’s keep this one alive. I definitely don’t want to work, but certainly wouldn’t want to be put to death for mowing the lawn on a Sunday afternoon. Stupider. [i]“And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters, which the LORD they God hath given thee, in the siege, and in the straightness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee:”[/i] ” Hey, cannibalism is cool, especially when it’s your own children. The bible’s not fucked up, not at all! And here's a quote from Jesus you won't hear in church. [i]"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me" [/i] Why isn't it obvious what the problem is? This isn't bigotry - it's fear of the extremist whackos that seem to permeate the Christian religion. When Christian leaders start to condemn state sanctioned terrorism - like cowardly bombing civilians from comfortable planes and unmanned drones publicly, instead of gutlessly remaining silent (or are they complicit?), then we will see some changing of The Middle East's view of Christians, and their acceptance of them as countrymen. I will grant you that there are all kinds of silly beliefs in the Muslim religion, for example. But, I'm 71, and I never heard of shooting children in the head at point blank range to kill non-believers. [url]http://www.chris-floyd.com/isahaqi/[/url] Come on - accept that Christianity must change at the top or there will never be "acceptance" in Middle Eastern and Athiest countries. And I am strongly in favor of Democracy and freedom - as are most people in the Middle East. - Richard K. Fri, 05 Feb 2010 20:23:49 +0100 http://atlanticfreepress.com/news/1/12563-muslims-must-not-pay-price-for-europes-identity-crisis-.html#comment-9445 :o:o:o:o:o:o What??? Frankly, speaking as a U.S. citizen, I didn't give a damn about Muslims, Hindus, etc., since practicing your religion is your right. What has polarized Americans against Muslims is terrorism, plain and simple. What other religion currently demands a death sentence for anyone converting out of Islam? Islam in the current time is arguably worse, i.e., more violent, than Christianity in Medieval times, and they have access to very modern weapons. One simple example: 72 virgins? Stupid? - yes. Blowing yourself up for this? Stupider. Why isn't it obvious what the problem is? This isn't bigotry - it's fear of the extremist whackos that seem to permeate the Islam religion. When Islamic leaders start to condemn terrorism publicly, instead of gutlessly remaining silent (or are they complicit?), then we will see some changing of European's and (frankly all other non-Muslim countries) view of Muslims, and their acceptance of them as countrymen. I will grant you that there are all kinds of silly beliefs in the Catholic religion, for example. But, I'm 71, and I never heard of blowing myself up to kill non-believers. Come on - accept that Islam must change at the top or there will never be "acceptance" in secular countries. And I am strongly in favor of secular governments, as are most Europeans and Americans. - Jack Hines Fri, 05 Feb 2010 17:59:13 +0100 http://atlanticfreepress.com/news/1/12563-muslims-must-not-pay-price-for-europes-identity-crisis-.html#comment-9324 It is not European woes nor its Identity Crisis, and nor any 'shortcomings' of Islam that is causing Muslims to be demonized in the Western World. It is also not very obtuse. Why are brilliant social scientists and academics like Ramzy Baroud getting confused about it: “Unearthing the reasons behind the disturbing phenomena is hardly an easy task, for it arguably requires a greater examination of the political, economic and social woes of European states than it does of the ‘shortcomings’ of Islam.”? It has neither anything to do with “political, economic and social woes of European states” nor with Islam. Why do brave people continually rise to defend Islam as if the world's great religion of more than 1.5 billion people needs their pathetic defense, that it can't stand on its own without their guarded fig leaf: “Islam is a great religion in many respects; it has endured for over 1400 years. Its membership is never confined by skin color, culture, political ideology or geographic boundaries. Its views of antiquity, on equality, women rights and peace are considered progressive even by today’s standards. The detractors of Islam fail to see all this.” The foundations of what is courageously not stated however is actually rather easily visible for anyone well versed in political and social sciences in the “doctrinal motivation, intellectual commitment” designed to sustain “imperial mobilization” as a Hegelian Dialectic to raise the phoenix of the new Atlantis from the ashes of the Old Order: a One-world government. Is this so very profound to comprehend? Why do pious people continually make World War IV out to be about Islam and Muslims? They either see it as being a war on Islam and apologetically argue that Islam is benign and that “The detractors of Islam fail to see all this” as Ramzy Baroud does in 'Muslims Must Not Pay Price for Europe’s Identity Crisis'; or see it as there being something inherently wrong with an antediluvian Islam which needs to be overhauled to bring it in line with modernity as Daniel Pipes and Bernard Lewis et. al. do in their doctrinal craftsmanship such as 'Crisis of Islam – Holy War and Unholy Terror' and in propagandist statements like it's “Not a Clash of Civilizations, It's a Clash between the Civilized World and Barbarians”; or see it as something wrong with the Muslims who need a reformation from their Dark Age as Pakistani native informant par excellence, Pervez Hoodbhoy does in his atheistic zealotry to reform the Muslim mind. In all cases, they calculatingly distract attention from the blatant fact of the matter that hectoring hegemons are engaging in demonization and false-flag operations to “goosestep the Herrenvolk across international frontiers” in their age old quest for Lebensraum, euphemistically called Global Governance? Rest of the Editorial is at: http://print-humanbeingsfirst.blogspot.com/2009/12/hegelian-mind-fck-attacking-islam.html Zahir Ebrahim Project Humanbeingsfirst.org - Project Humanbeingsfirst.org Sun, 27 Dec 2009 03:43:50 +0100